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  1. Jeff
    August 27, 2012

    This is the background for Neal Stephenson et al’s Mongoliad: http://mongoliad.com/

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  2. ZilWerks
    October 5, 2012

    While the Battle of Mohi did devastate the Hungarian kingdom, the inability to capture Bela Arpad was telling. It can be counter argued that the Mongols were overstretched at that point, and early surprise successes and their use of a feigned retreat would not have continued to work. Their inability to conquer the Southern Sung (until 1290 or so) was a drain on the military and focus. Quickly conquering the steeps of Ukraine and the Khawarizdun (Persia) lands is one thing. Conquering and holding Europe with its many mountains, river valleys, and fractious ethnicities is another.

    I do like the what-if game though. IF Subotai, one of the top-ten military geniuses of all time with a military to match, had the go ahead from Ogedai might it make Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II and the Pope drop their dispute? Would the Venetian spies already in the Mongol lands that were used to destroy the Genoese and Pisa black sea settlements turn their attentions to stopping the Mongols? Would France turn its attention east, and let Henry III revive his Angevin empire ambitions? Would Bela, the “second father of Hungary” lead a counter crusade? Would the Hungarians relearn the tactics they learned on the steppes and push back the Mongols?

    The What-if game makes history fascinating, and a great lesson in action-meets-consequence.

    –Matthew Iskra

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  3. joel
    October 5, 2012

    Why he no come back and finish the job?

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  4. Watchman
    October 10, 2012

    Question is also how the mongols might have coped with longbows – just appearing as the normal missle weapon of the English…

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