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  1. John Shepard
    July 7, 2014

    Why does the essayist/questioner think that they were stupid? Or perhaps more accurately the question is, why does the essayist/questioner think that their political views were inconsistent with their more fundamental philosophical views?

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  2. Bob Marks
    July 7, 2014

    Their conclusions were consistent with their fundamental philosophical views. Their big mistake was not checking their conclusions against reality. When their conclusions turned out to be wrong, they just assumed that reality was at fault. That is why Sartre remained a Stalinist long after the details of Stalin’s mass murders were made public, and why Heidegger never repented his Nazi past.

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  3. Bret
    July 7, 2014

    Hmmm.

    As far as I can tell, nearly all humans are stupid when it comes to politics (myself included), so why would we expect philosophers to be any different?

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  4. Bret
    July 7, 2014

    Also, I don’t know if you consider Hayek a philosopher, but I think he was extremely astute regarding politics, so just listing 4 random philosophers and making the claim of political stupidity may just be cherry picking.

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  5. Catherine Dong
    July 7, 2014

    These are philosophers from the last 100 years. Perhaps it is more of a commentary on the current state of accepted inquiry (academia). A kind of scholasticism that will not impress much several centuries from now…

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  6. Neil
    July 8, 2014

    The history of 20th century philosophy is, in large part, one of examining the failings of Victorian-era European culture and its collapse into bloodbath, of examining the reasons for that descent into madness, and extrapolating the conclusions into philosophical guidelines for future use.

    It should not be surprising that most of the hypotheses might have been incorrect. It should not be surprising that academics cling to their career-making theories long after they’ve gone stale. And, given that the interplay of human events only becomes clear after decades have passed, it should not be surprising that it has taken a century to even begin sorting out the good from the bad.

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  7. Edward Fox
    July 8, 2014

    I confess politics bores the crap outta me. Bob Marks may have nailed it.

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  8. Edward Fox
    July 9, 2014

    The day to day minutiae, speeches, scandals, corruption in politics are very predictable, hence boring. Political theory on the other hand is fascinating. Yet the former is the result of the latter, hence anyone interested in the latter can’t really afford to be so blithely dismissive.

    “Believe nothing unless it’s officially denied.”
    – Washington aphorism

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  9. Gary E. Davis
    July 7, 2024

    In the case of Heidegger, going to educational psychology rather than sociology would be more useful. You could realize that constructive engagement with distorted minds (students inspired by nazi spectacle, misreading of Hölderlin as nationalist, and distortion of Greek thinking as root of nazi essentialism) is what the therapeutic mind does.

    Commonly in modern philosophy, language analysis is aimed to disabuse a person of thoughtless presumptions. Believing that Heidegger was a nazi just shows what kind of mind such a believer is.

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